August 16, 2004

For Your Consideration. . .

Last week, I submitted a letter to the editor of the Rochester Post-Bulletin regarding the Kerry/Cambodia flap. The following is what transpired:

Thank you for your letter to the editor. However, we do not plan on running
it at this time. You state that Mr. Kerry lied about his military service.
We've been getting many letters like this from anti-Kerry and anti-Bush
people. Much of the material for these letters has come from unreliable Web
sites that are perpetuating inaccurate information
. We've decided not to run
them unless the writer provides documentation. To just say something "never
happened" or that someone "lied" without such documentation is unfair.

--
Greg Sellnow
Columnist/Editorial Page Coordinator
Post-Bulletin

I responded:

Thank you for your response, Mr. Sellnow. I respect the P-B's decision not to run my letter. Just out of curiousity, though, what does the Post-Bulletin consider "unreliable" Web sites? I, too, am a journalist, currently working as news editor for several IBM magazines, and I regularly find items on the Web that aid my research on articles. Some Web sites, obviously, are moonbat crazy and I typically ignore them, but there are also a vast number of sites out there that consistently bring stories to light before the established "Media" even get a whiff of them. I've been out of the newspaper game for about five years now, so I'm curious how newspapers newsrooms currently view and utilize the Web.

Ryan Rhodes

Sellnow writes back:

We've been getting more and more letters to the editor from readers containing information that is basically cut and pasted from blogs and personal Web sites. These folks just blindly accept the info. as fact without taking the time to determine if it's accurate. You're right, there's a ton of information out there on the Web that is accurate and reliable. We'd just like letter writers to cite the sources for controversial information so we can check it for accuracy. Obviously, if it's biased source such as MoveOn.org people can take it for what it's worth and we'll print the letter. But if the source is Jim Smith's daily blog we might be a bit more skeptical. In your case, I'm pretty sure the info. you include in your letter about Kerry not being in Cambodia on Christmas Day 1968 comes from a biography of Kerry by Douglas Brinkley called "Tour of Duty." If you can confirm that and list him as the source we'd be fine with the letter.

Greg Sellnow
Columnist/Editorial Page Coordinator
Post-Bulletin

Emphasis mine (of course). Keep in mind, Sellnow and I remained cordial and respectful, but something about his last response bothered me.

Let's see, they draw the line when it comes to people blindly accepting information as fact without taking the time to determine if it's accurate, but if it's a letter that cites a biased source such as MoveOn.org people can take it for what it's worth and they'll print the letter? WTF?

-- Much of the material for these letters has come from unreliable Web
sites that are perpetuating inaccurate information

-- Obviously, if it's biased source such as MoveOn.org people can take it for what it's worth and we'll print the letter.

So, it's okay if it's MoveOn.org bias, but other biased sources (such as blogs) should be backed up with documentation and research for accuracy? That's a pretty screwed up letters policy.

Posted by Ryan at August 16, 2004 03:26 PM
Comments

The way I read what he's saying is that if people cite a source for their information, and the source is something "everyone knows" to be biased (MoveOn, NewsMax, etc) they'll print a letter (or likely one out of the hundreds they receive) and leave it up to their viewers to draw the obvious conclusion: "Well, that letter claiming that Bush/Kerry likes to skullfuck kittens came from MoveOn/NewsMax so it's probably not reliable."

However, if someone simply cites the skullfucking proclivities of presidential candidates as fact without providing any backup or saying only, "Plain Layne said so" then they won't print it.

I know you're always looking to prove the "liberal media" boogeyman thing, but as usual I think you're grasping at straws. I think the question isn't one of left vs right here but of up vs down. I.E. which websites are "up" high enough on what they believe the public's radar is to be able to be used as a source (i.e. Salon, New Republic, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Moore) and which one's are too far "down" in the blogerarchy (davidgrenier.com, rambling rhodes, strip mining for whimsy, intellectual poison, men who look like kenny rogers)?

Posted by: David Grenier at August 16, 2004 04:27 PM

Actually, David, I sent another e-mail to Sellnow asking him where, specifically, they draw the line when it comes to blogs, but I haven't heard back from him. I'm curious if, say, someone cited "Instapundit" whether the P-B would consider that a respectable enough source.

I threw this entry together haphazardly, because I'm busy today. But, I still find it somewhat hypocritical to say they have a problem with people blindly accepting information as fact without taking the time to determine if it's accurate, so they don't run the letters, but then they turn around and say, "But, it's okay to run letters from people who are blindly accepting information as fact from biased sources such as MoveOn.org." Therein lies my beef.

Posted by: Ryan at August 16, 2004 04:43 PM

please add the Mint to the list of blogs that are too far down the blogerarchy. thanx.

Posted by: seed at August 16, 2004 04:53 PM

What's this? Bush likes to skullfuck kittens? I read in on a respected blog so it must be true. Oh wait, it said Bush AND Kerry like to tag team skull fucking kittens. Damn, much be a hold over from their days at Yale.

I think Sellnow's point (and what a tremendously wasted life, he should have been a stock broker) was that a cited source and even a wildly skewed source gives a reader the chance to decide if the source has any credibility whatsoever.

By the way, whatever happened to your classified nut job weekly postings? Those were comedy gold!

Posted by: Johnny Huh? at August 16, 2004 09:39 PM

Heh. Johnny, I stopped transcribing his bizarre rants when he started getting too long-winded, and I was too lazy to type it all up. But, perhaps I should start again.

Posted by: Ryan at August 17, 2004 10:03 AM

Man, my spelling truly sucked ass in that last comment. I shall hang my head in shame for the next eight seconds as pennance.

Posted by: Johnny Huh? at August 17, 2004 10:03 AM
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